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Just Finished This - Need Help Pricing The Original

Posted by: Jani Freimann on 01/24/2013 - 6:12 PM

The original is 9 x 12 on canvas board. Canvas board is not the same as a stretched canvas piece and it will need to be framed eventually. The prints I made available of it are larger than the original and I don't want the prices of the prints to be more than the original. I currently have it at $125, but that is less than the largest print of it. What do you think it should be priced at?
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Posted by: Rich Franco on 01/24/2013 - 6:23 PM

Jani,

I think it would be a bargin at twice the price! $250 for an original piece of artwork? Seems awfully cheap!

Very nice!

Rich

 

Posted by: Jeffery Johnson on 01/24/2013 - 6:28 PM

Time + materials + talent + uniqueness = what you should charge.

 

Posted by: Mo T on 01/24/2013 - 6:33 PM

Start with 1000$ and see how it goes...Art is like Your own child so if You have to put a price on it it should be worth Your time...

It's beautiful btw...Good Luck :)

 

Posted by: Jani Freimann on 01/24/2013 - 6:33 PM

Rich, I was thinking that number too, but nobody is buying my originals right now...it is canvas board not stretched canvas.

 

Posted by: Jani Freimann on 01/24/2013 - 6:34 PM

Mo T , thank you. That just seems way too high for such a small piece that needs to be framed. It did take me longer than it should have because I did it twice.

and Jeffery...exactly. Always the hardest part for me.

 

Posted by: Mo T on 01/24/2013 - 6:40 PM

Well it's still an original painting not a print of it...even if it need a frame...anyways it was just my humble opinion You know best what's best for You :) I'm sure You'll get a buyer willing to pay as much as You want :)

 

Posted by: Jani Freimann on 01/24/2013 - 6:42 PM

Thank you, Mo T, for the vote of confidence. Watercolor does not command the prices that acrylics and oils do, unfortunately, but this is also acrylic and on canvas; which is a bonus.

 

Posted by: Jeffery Johnson on 01/24/2013 - 6:43 PM

Okay how long did it take you to create this master piece. Now mind you I am not just meaning the time spent painting it but the time it took to formulate the idea for this creation.

 

Posted by: Jani Freimann on 01/24/2013 - 6:49 PM

Hmm...let me think.

I think it took a total of 8 hours. Materials were minimal. The uniqueness factor is high because it is watercolor over acrylic on canvas. Not done very much. At least as far as I know.

I usually figure about $25 an hour minimum. In this case, that's probably lower than it should be, $200.00...maybe. I don't know.

I guess I'm just not feeling confident that anyone would want my work. Probably the time to buy from me, lol.

 

Posted by: Jolanta Anna Karolska on 01/24/2013 - 6:55 PM

Jani...listen to Mo...I fully agree with her... it is a stunning piece of art work...don't look at it as " size" ...but what it contains...
good luck!
Jolanta

 

Posted by: Jeffery Johnson on 01/24/2013 - 6:57 PM

Okay here it is sale it for $750. It is after all the original piece and you will be selling prints of it in the meantime.

 

Posted by: Jeffery Johnson on 01/24/2013 - 6:59 PM

Market it to the animal lover, horse lover, equestrians, horse racers and art lovers.

 

Posted by: Mo T on 01/24/2013 - 7:03 PM

Jolanta has a point...it's like a sin to measure value of artwork by it's size...It's not a wall You put a paint on and pay per inch of it...It's one and only creation with a piece of Your heart in it so measure it with your heart...since Your "child" is leaving home forever...

 

Posted by: Jani Freimann on 01/24/2013 - 7:18 PM

I will have to ponder on that price, Jeffery. Tomorrow might be a better day to think prices as I don't feel confident about it today.

Thanks for reminding me about those tags. I added them.

I agree with you two, Jolanta and Mo, about it being an original and you can only sell that once. Don't smack me, but wouldn't I have to consider my other originals and their prices at their sizes and the fact that my originals aren't selling right now?

 

Posted by: Mo T on 01/24/2013 - 7:32 PM

Yes Jani...I hear You...I know how hard it is when we have to be reasonable...as I said before You're the only one who knows best...and we are here just to put our three cents for Your consideration...Happy pricing tomorrow :)

 

Posted by: Rich Franco on 01/24/2013 - 8:02 PM

Jani,

I think, like a lot of artists, you doubting your worth and ability. If it took 8 hours, and you were a plumber, it would be over $1,000!!! You're not a plumber. And I don't care if it's on cardboard, it's art and it's good!

"I agree with you two, Jolanta and Mo, about it being an original and you can only sell that once. Don't smack me, but wouldn't I have to consider my other originals and their prices at their sizes and the fact that my originals aren't selling right now?" DUH!!! I have been to galleries and have been told, you don't charge enough, we won't handle you.

Your art, your paintings, not your photography, should be bumped up big time!!!

Rich

 

Posted by: Elizabeth Lane on 01/24/2013 - 10:23 PM

I recently attended a show of very beautifully painted Italian landscapes........the pieces were mostly 9"x 12"...down to a 4"x 6". The price on this small painting is $1,800. The larger 9" x 12" were closer to $3,000.
Those prices left me gasping and wondering about my own prices, which are pretty low.
And it is such a "roll of the dice".
Well the painting is small....I am virtually an unknown artist......selling the work myself cuts out the commission a gallery would charge yadda, yadda, yadda...
Pricing one's art is about as difficult as trying to figure out what the customers will buy.
It is a very piece. $200.00? At least that much.

Edited to add: As the artist's work begins to sell and there is a demand for it, then raise the prices.

 

Posted by: Jimmie Bartlett on 01/24/2013 - 10:49 PM

Very nice work. Suggest you search the internet for prices on similar work. Prices vary greatly depending on where you plan to market it and demographics. Also, how well known the artist is.

 

Posted by: Roy Erickson on 01/24/2013 - 10:52 PM

"I" wouldn't take less than $250 for the original - and would probably bump that to at least $500. Too often we don't value our own work - and when we don't - neither do others.

 

Posted by: Jani Freimann on 01/24/2013 - 11:18 PM

That is true, Roy. I am much better at valuing my work than I use to be. I would feel comfortable with the $500 price for it after it's framed. I should frame it. Paintings always look better framed and look more valuable that way too.

Rich, I'm going to seriously consider that. And I've just finished going through all my pieces here doing a re-vamp on them. Oh, well.

Demographics...Seattle area.

How well known am I? Well known, I am not. Working on that. I recently met someone who owns a gallery in my area. She seems to know the market as she is doing well. I need to take my pieces to her and have her tell me what she thinks buyers will pay. I've been thinking of being in her gallery, but she takes 50%. That's another story.

 

Posted by: Jani Freimann on 01/25/2013 - 11:03 AM

My husband made a good point this morning. He reminded me that I forget to add the time it takes to find a frame and the time it takes to enter shows, go to and from galleries...so I'm beginning to feel the higher numbers as what it should be.

 

Posted by: Rich Franco on 01/25/2013 - 11:47 AM

Jani,

I don't know how other painters feel about this, but I wouldn't use the "labor" involved equation to determine your value of the artwork. Someday, you may create a masterpiece, in 1 hour, should that now sell for $50?

I thinkit's more about the quality and emotiuonal impact your work has that should guide you with the pricing,

Rich

 

Posted by: Jani Freimann on 01/25/2013 - 11:55 AM

Good point, Rich. I think what my husband meant was to not price so low that it wouldn't cover the behind-the-scenes stuff that goes on in producing art. He is one that puts great value in his time.

 

Posted by: Tony Murray on 01/25/2013 - 12:46 PM

If it were destroyed what would it cost you to replace it?

 

Posted by: Jani Freimann on 01/25/2013 - 2:53 PM

Another good point, Tony.

The materials were minimal so it would be my time and creativity.

The first time I painted it I was feeling inspired. It didn't come out like I planned so I washed off the watercolor portion which was the horse (the background was sealed). Later, I looked at the photo of the painting I had taken before washing it and I felt like kicking myself for doing that. When I finally got around to painting it again, I kind of lost my original mojo and it didn't turn out the same. In fact, I could paint if many times over and it would look different every time. So, there is something to be said for that. I paint with my feelings as much as with paint itself. Every day, every hour is different. It's a lot like a photograph in the sense that my painting moods change like lighting changes. You can only capture that special lighting (mood) once. The next time will be different.

I just don't have enough experience with knowing what people are willing to pay. I sent an e-mail to the owner of the gallery I spoke of earlier. She may be able to enlighten me on this subject.

 

Posted by: Jani Freimann on 01/25/2013 - 3:03 PM

This was the first version. Very different than the one above. Wish I would have taken a better photo of it at this stage.

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